Sunday, June 17, 2007

All falls down for Flickr

Talk about bad press, Flickr becomes global news for all the wrong reasons:

Yahoo's Flickr photo service facing censorship complaints in Germany

International Herald Tribune

Flickr Restrictions Irk German Users
Houston Chronicle, United States

Yahoo's Flickr service facing censorship complaints in Germany
San Jose Mercury News,  USA

Flickr Restrictions Irk German Users
Forbes, NY

Yahoo's Flickr service facing censorship complaints in Germany
XETV FOX6 San Diego, CA

Flickr Users In Germany Complain Of Censorship

German Users In Revolt Over Flickr Image Restrictions
Wired News

Flickr curtails German photo sharing
CNet Blog

The Germans get their Flickrs in a twist over 'censorship'
The Observer, UK

This is the worst press the Internet has gotten since, the worst press since the dot bomb, this is now the worst press any Web2.0 site.  All that is needed is for some of these news sources to see how little Flcikr has done about all the child porn.

Bob Hooker

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Flickr Censors Germany in Mass


When the Flickr filters were put in place I posted to the threads that they were putting in place a framework for future censorship, in response Flickr blocked my IP from the threads.  I can post from interent cafes but whats the point accept to gloat, and be taken down in a matter of seconds, and now there are thousands of people repeating what I said as it turns out yes the filter system is a framework for collective censorship.

The decision to censor Germany in mass was a bit strange, and one wonders where it was made: Yahoo or Flickr?  Flickr itself remains empty of all information and explanations.

Oh well, sometimes being right and punished for being right doesn't feel good.  When the filters came out I made my case that they would lead to national censorship and they made censorship too easy for Flickr.  At the time the Nazis who run Flickr blocked my IP, which they would not do for a woman being sexually assualted on Flickr. 

Now I predict about 1 million users are about to take their IPs off line. 

Flickr survives simply because it is the best technology and was there first, it reached critical mass.  But almost everyone wants an alternative and as soon as one of the other products becomes mature Flickr will collapse.  The Germany censorship was a step too far, there is no defense or excuse for locking everyone in Germany to child status.

To the admins who have ruined Flickr, and the cyber bullies who used to own the threads, but have since lost them, a message from Bob Hooker "you screwed up losers"!

Bob Hooker

Flickr has gone too far

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Saturday, June 09, 2007

Has Flickr Blocked China

At first view it seems that China has blocked farm1 and farm2 on Flickr without Flickr and Yahoo knowing.

News story

Flickr Shamefully Blocked in China has been blocked in China since 7th June, 2007, the reason unidentified. Reports have come from everywhere in China confirming the blockage. Flickr’s team has also confirmed that the problem is not from their end. The blocked servers are currently and, which are reportedly servers for pictures only. This explains the fact that all texts on Flickr are unaffected whereas no photo could be shown when one attempts to access inside mainland China. Some domestic search engines are now sensitive to these server addresses as well. Baidu, the most popular search engine in mainland China, gives no result under the” or ““.

Sounds simple, but from Washburn" href="">Dan Washburn

We have an observation that Farm2 server on Flickr was down period. That is at the same time that China lost view of Farm1 and Farm2 memebers of Flickr report Farm2 went down around the world. 3 users reported this on the forum before Flickr locked the group.

Accident? Coincidence? Tell that to the Democracy leaders in Chinese Jails because of Yahoo.

Farm2 server is down!!!!

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`Pacdog Pro User says:

It is..
Posted at 4:23AM, 8 June 2007 BST ( permalink )

Pacdog does not live in china, but a few other people noticed at the same time that the blocking was starting farm2 was down for a group of people beyond China. An accident, or perhaps Flickr was refining its blocking of Farm1 and Farm2 to Chinese IP.

Steward promptly locked the discussion. But it would be a very interesting coincidence that just when Farm1 and Farm2 were being "blocked" by China Farm2 went down to western users. My it is just strange luck. But three users on the thread, before Flickr closed it, all reported that Farm2 was down globally at the same time that Farm1 and Farm2 were being "blocked" in China.

Yahoo has a very close relationship with Flickr, there is deniability on both sides, but the possibility that this was done by Flickr at the request of China is a very likely possibility.

Despite denials Flickr engages in wide spread IP blocking, but they are plagued with technical problems. Also I have not been able to find another site being similiarly blocked. Searchs on other blogging engines and China return no news items on Google that I have been able to find. Only Flickr is having problems.

Coincidence? Perhaps. But there really is no rational reason to believe Flickrs account of things.

Bob Hooker

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Wednesday, June 06, 2007

Yahoo is bad for you

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Felling a little sick, well it could be Yahoo. They seem better at blocking China Democracy movement that hackers.

McAfee: Yahoo search most "risky"

Tom Espiner, ZDNet UK

06 June 2007 09:34 AM

Out of the top five search engines, Yahoo returns the riskiest sites for users, according to security vendor McAfee.

In research published on Monday by McAfee SiteAdvisor, 5.4 percent of Yahoo searches returned links to "risky" Internet sites. AOL was found to be the safest of the top five, with 2.9 percent of sites.

According to McAfee SiteAdvisor, Yahoo returned the most results rated "red" or "yellow". "Red" rated sites failed McAfee SiteAdvisor's safety tests. "Examples are sites that distribute adware, send a high volume of spam, or make unauthorised changes to a user's computer," said the report. Examples of "Yellow" rated sites are those which send a high volume of "non-spammy" e-mail, display many pop-up ads, or prompt a user to change browser settings.

According to McAfee, overall, on Yahoo, MSN,, Google, and AOL, sponsored searches returned more risky results than "organic" searches. Of sponsored searches, 6.9 percent returned risky content, compared with 2.9 percent of organic searches.

Tuesday, June 05, 2007

Wweeggee another vicitim of Flickr makes the case against Censorship with art

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wweeggee  Pro User  says:

antimoral art
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Flickr Censorship Cancer

The internt is rapidly filling up with these ugly signs of Flickr censorship, they have become a kind of cancer of what is wrong with corporate ownership of web culture.

Though you have to wonder, why would flickr be happy to have the blogosphere full of millions and millions of such images?  Anyone at home.

Also it has come to my attention that Flickr censors are reading this blog, welcome.  Its good to know that since you block all criticism of yourselves on Flickr you have discovered a place where you might read something other than the shrinking chorus of Cyber bullies.

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Monday, June 04, 2007

Welcome Flickr Censors

It has come to my attention, and great joy, that this blog is read by some of the Flickr Censorship squad.

Welcome. It is so refreshing to have a forum that some of the people responsible for the destruction of freedom that is not blocked out of hand.

The other day I read that SL declared their site an adult site. With this one simple statement they liberated SL from a great deal of potential censorship. Which made me wonder: how many children actually use Flickr? I just spent several hours exploring Flickr and I couldn't find anyone not in their late teens posting on the site.

As far as I know Flickr has never posted information as to their idea of how many people under 18 view the site.

It strikes me that the "young people" argument seems silly when you look at the profiles of thousands of Flickr users, they are vastly adult. So why is a set of adults being made to live by the rules of a junior high school?

I suspect "children" are a nice excuse to impose a regime of censorship.

As for the censorship itself, as I predicted, Flickr is filling up with more and more hard core porn than ever. Since in order to even see artistic nudes one has to register with Yahoo! it turns out that people who like porn are being forced to get a Flickr account. Once having a free account they might as well load up a few pictures. And what are they going to load up? More porn.

People who post photos of cats and flowers can be viewed without a flickr account. So Flickr has made it so people who want porn are made to join, where as other people are not. Sounds like a great way to insure Flickr becomes the world's largest source of porn, which it is becoming.

As for Flickr uses, the filter system has removed them. The uncertainty as to status of a site means that it can not reliably used for much of anything. If I go on vacation and want to post my pictures why would I post them on Flickr if none of my friends or family can see them for months? Also if I want to present class projects on Flickr again I can rely on people being able to see it without registering with Flickr.

Recently I created a PhD project presentation on Web2,0 and presented the findings on Flickr. In order to circulate it to the class I had to start a blogger account and migrate the information to blogger. Members of the class refused to register with Yahoo.